Ignorant (Gay..??!!) Indians

COMPLETED 26 APRIL 2018

a.k.a. "I am married, so I am Top.." (heavy Indian accent)...
a.k.a. "Helooo [sic] baby..!" (heavy Indian accent)...
a.k.a. "Why not you don't play with me huh.?" (heavy Indian accent)... 

1.  See what we wrote in the 5 part series:

Four Kinds Of Curry 1
Four Kinds Of Curry 2

versus

Four Kinds Of Curry 3 - The Indians we are talking about
Four Kinds Of Curry 4 - The Indians we are talking about
Four Kinds Of Curry 5 - The Indians we are talking about

2.  Oh dear, oh dear....Indians in Categories 3, 4 and 5 above, are flooding into Very Rich Megacity in astonishing numbers.  In the process, they are royally pissing off and embarrassing those Indians mentioned in Categories 1 and 2 above.

3.  The crux of such resentment between 1 and 2 vs 3,4 and 5 is an intra-cultural discrepancy.  Assessing our observations, talking to GAMs, GWMs and those Indians in Categories 1 and 2, (and purely as an unscientific thesis), we can extrapolate the following:

• Indians in all 5 categories are certainly academically educated (in many cases, overly-educated) or are businessmen;
• Those Indians in Categories 3,4, and 5 showing up here in Very Rich Megacity, are the middle class seeking employment or business opportunities or nouveau riche.
• Categories 3,4, and 5 may include professionals or businessmen. Some may be quite wealthy but they are not regarded as equal by those Indians in Categories 1 and 2;
• Categories 1 and 2:

1. act differently;
2. dress differently;
3. have more finesse in social interaction;
4. are comfortable with westerners and may have more western friends;
5. speak with no accent, or with a western accent;

• Categories 3, 4 and 5 are well.....more Indian-ethnic.  Nothing wrong with that when it comes to cultural, religious and celebratory events where everyone is in traditional dress. But at the same time, such ethno-centricity raises suspicions of a ghetto mentality.  They tend to mix with their own kind - all newly arrived middle class or noveau riche types.  You will not find them socializing in the hip parts of town where Categories 1 and 2 will be;
•  Categories 3,4 and 5 carry a peculiar sense of social entitlement and a complete lack of social finesse, despite the employment, education and/or the cash.  One GAM showed us pictures on his mobile phone where a group of 8 (recently arrived) Indians in their 20s and 30s living in his block of flats, appeared at the residential clubhouse gym one evening - in their pyjamas, flip-flops and toothpicks hanging out of their mouths.  The gym machines became couches from which Hindi banter was hollered across the premises.  Customers complained to the management.  When the Indians were told there was a dress code in the gym, they argued that they shouldn't have to comply since they were already paying rent and management fees.....

4.  In India, gay sex is illegal.  Then add:

• bigotry;
• ignorance; 
• sexual ignorance;
• religious intolerance;
• peer pressure to conform;
• very conservative home life;
• an insistence on academic excellence;
• family pressure to marry;
• no defined gay neighbourhoods;
• no openly gay bars, clubs, cafes and restaurants;
• no openly gay saunas;
• no urban gay retail;
• no large scale gay events;
• no gay marriage;
• no gay rights enshrined in law;
• limited gay advocacy;
• police arrests and intimidation of gay men, often requiring bribes;
• gay-bashing; 
• a long history of homosexual transvestite prostitution, frequently with violence;
• rampant gay-for-pay;
• a population of 1.5 Billion....

5.  ..... and what one ends up with, are millions of tech-savvy, miserable, ignorant, chauvinistic, artificially macho, socially inept, probably married or soon to be married (highly closeted) gay men who are still blinking in the light of the comparative gay freedoms found in Hong Kong. (And remember, Hong Kong still has some ways to go in terms of gay equality).

6.  To them, a Hong Kong gay sauna is a HHHUUGGGGEEE  deal.

7.  But they arrive at the local saunas totally unprepared.....online gay porn will only get you so far when it comes to gay sauna etiquette and for all their academic prowess, we hear anecdotally and have witnessed, Categories 3,4 and 5 being rather slow learners.

8.  Human nature shows a tendency to make assumptions about foreigners and dump them in one (usually perjorative) category.  Our series, Four Kinds Of Curry, and this post, attempts to draw some historical, social and behavioural distinctions found in the huge Indian diaspora.

9.  From what we hear from GWMs and GAMs, those Indians in Categories 1 and 2 can be hot, fun to play with and well mannered.  The other categories not so much.

10.  The projected reality is that Indians across all 5 categories listed above will become much more visible in Hong Kong gay saunas:

• It has already happened in Central Escalator (remember CE bills itself as the most international);
• It has already happened in Galaxy (which for some time has attracted the older, fatter and darker types);
• It is happening in Big Top, MyWay and Soda (GAMs have told us that Indians showing up in those saunas are either local or, were brought up in the UK and US, with some Indian tourists from India and the United Arab Emirates - specifically Abu Dhabi and Dubai  The latter makes sense.....we'd noticed for a while that our web stats were showing hits from the Emirates).

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